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. >> riding high, romney reminded a rally last night with fireworks and trace adkins that the president promised his stimulus gets unemployment lower than it is. >> he said right now, we would be at 5.4 #% unemployment. >> romney pounded biden for stating the administration's goal yesterday of a trillion dollar tax hike on those earning more than 200,000 or $250,000. >> they have been squeezed and buried. >> he did not talk about the 47% who don't pay income taxes expect a handout. he renounced the statement last night once and for all. >> completely wrong, and i absolutely believe my life has shown i care about 100%. >> they hope the remarks put the matter behind him, but to prevent that, democrats spent today announcing new talking points to keep it alive. lou? lou: thank you very much. carl cameron, chief political correspondent. joining us for more on this final month before the election and what changed since the debate, carl rove joins us, the head of the american cross roads, former adviser to president bush. good to have you here. start with, first of all, that pempsz. you and i
. >> riding high, romney reminded a rally last night with fireworks and trace adkins that the president promised his stimulus gets unemployment lower than it is. >> he said right now, we would be at 5.4 #% unemployment. >> romney pounded biden for stating the administration's goal yesterday of a trillion dollar tax hike on those earning more than 200,000 or $250,000. >> they have been squeezed and buried. >> he did not talk about the 47% who don't pay income taxes...
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mitt romney did not come off that way on wednesday night. i would expect it to close in the states. here is the point, if obama had a really goodnight and romney had a very bad night with the polls all showing "bomb with a big lead in the wing states, a lot people would say this race is over. that it has gotten out of hand for romney given the fact it was exactly the opposite, a big romney win, now it is a very competitive race and it ensures it will go on. it ensures it will be a tight, tough, competitive race right to election day. >>trace: i think you are right. that is chris wallace, and you lay cornell tomorrow for a huge game and right now you are 3-0. >> the sunday broadcast on local networks includes sit down to democratic governor of maryland and obama supporters and the republican senator from new hampshire and romney supporter. that is fox news sunday. check the local listing. we are now tracking the deadly meningitis outbreak which now has spread to another state. it has already killed five. now the number of cases has jumped dramatically. with the spark miles card from
mitt romney did not come off that way on wednesday night. i would expect it to close in the states. here is the point, if obama had a really goodnight and romney had a very bad night with the polls all showing "bomb with a big lead in the wing states, a lot people would say this race is over. that it has gotten out of hand for romney given the fact it was exactly the opposite, a big romney win, now it is a very competitive race and it ensures it will go on. it ensures it will be a tight,...
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mitt romney also talked about the deficit last night. and he claims that even with his tax cut, he will not add to the defici deficit. >> my number one principle is there will be no tax cut that adds to the deficit. i won't put in place a tax cut that adds to the deficit. that's part one. so there's no economist that can say mitt romney's tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. >> the problem in both of these claims is a lack of specifics. what the president is assuming, the reason we said false on his claim, he basically is assuming if he just did a tax cut and nothing else, then it would include this giant amount of tax breaks for people out there. but that's what mr. romney is saying he won't do. he's saying he has all these specifics in terms of cutting deductions, finding ways of closing loopholes so that people would pay more and there wouldn't be this giant tax cut but he wouldn't say what that would be. this lack of
mitt romney also talked about the deficit last night. and he claims that even with his tax cut, he will not add to the defici deficit. >> my number one principle is there will be no tax cut that adds to the deficit. i won't put in place a tax cut that adds to the deficit. that's part one. so there's no economist that can say mitt romney's tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the...
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mitt romney must accomplish a lot on wednesday night to begin to alter this race across the board. romney's team is loading him up with a bunch of zingers for the debate according to to "the new york times." romney has memorized these zingers and has been practicing them on aids since august. romney obviously did well enough in the primary debates to make it this far, no doubt. although most of his competition wasn't as tough as president obama. romney also had some memorable moments. >> i'll tell you what. $10,000 bet? >> i'm not in the betting business. >> the answer is self-deportation, which is people decide they can do better by going home because they can't find work here because they don't have legal documentation to allow them to work here. >> i can't have illegals. rick, i'm speaking. i'm speaking. you get 30 seconds. this is the way the rules work here is i get 60 seconds. and then you get 30 seconds to respond, right? >> well, let's bring in democratic strategist chris kofinis and susan del percio. you know, i'm going ten to one that mitt romney touches president obama d
mitt romney must accomplish a lot on wednesday night to begin to alter this race across the board. romney's team is loading him up with a bunch of zingers for the debate according to to "the new york times." romney has memorized these zingers and has been practicing them on aids since august. romney obviously did well enough in the primary debates to make it this far, no doubt. although most of his competition wasn't as tough as president obama. romney also had some memorable moments....
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how would you grade mitt romney last night? >> i gave him a full a and i gave obama a c minus and it was kind of a gift. you know, i hate to admit it, but i go all the way back to the 1960 debate, steve. this was the biggest gaffe between an incumbent president's performance and a challenger's performance ever. for those who think 1980 was a bigger gaffe, i i would invite them to go back and see that debate. yes, there was a big gaffe between eggen and carter, but it wasn't this big. >> steve: you're making it sound quite historic. in fact, "wall street journal" says this is the best debate effort by a republican nominee since reagan back in 1980, which would have been 32 years from now. do you think this is going to move the polls, move the meter? >> that's the big question. if you're asking me to guess, and that's all i'm doing this morning, i would say it will move the needle. i have no idea how much. is it a point or two or is it a bunch much points? we're all going to find out in the next wave of polls. i think everybody i
how would you grade mitt romney last night? >> i gave him a full a and i gave obama a c minus and it was kind of a gift. you know, i hate to admit it, but i go all the way back to the 1960 debate, steve. this was the biggest gaffe between an incumbent president's performance and a challenger's performance ever. for those who think 1980 was a bigger gaffe, i i would invite them to go back and see that debate. yes, there was a big gaffe between eggen and carter, but it wasn't this big....
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george will writes romney is behind so on wednesday night it might be risky for romney not to take risks. which is a lot of risk in one sentence. do you think romg will go out there? i mean given his behavior thus far? >> historically the defirst debate is the first time a challenger has a chance to stance on stage on a level playing for field for a couple hours with the incumbent president and it's been the challenger's best debate. so just by showing up, you would think that romney's a slight favorite right now. we have seen obama recently in a higher position than he's been in all year, maybe higher than you would expect based on where the economy is. so i do think romney should have a tail wind at the same time the stuff we're mentioning where he also has tried to avoid articulating where his positions are on a lot of issues, a lot that is common sense but if you take positions further away from the center that damages you and he's not done a lot of running to the center at all in this campaign. that's unusual and he'll be proebds for more detail during the debate. >> the american pu
george will writes romney is behind so on wednesday night it might be risky for romney not to take risks. which is a lot of risk in one sentence. do you think romg will go out there? i mean given his behavior thus far? >> historically the defirst debate is the first time a challenger has a chance to stance on stage on a level playing for field for a couple hours with the incumbent president and it's been the challenger's best debate. so just by showing up, you would think that romney's a...
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that's next. >>> and later, i will show mitt romney who is to win tomorrow night's debate. i actually showed him how to do it six years ago in an episode of "the west wing." mitt romney and "the west wing" are in tonight's rewrite. >> i've had a lot of republicans tell me, even supporters of yours, they look to mitt romney's tape, that 47% comment, how damaging was that? >> it was -- mitt acknowledged it was a very inarticulate way of a point we've been making all along in this campaign. >>> in the end, it is unlikely that either candidate for president will say something. with a greater impact on the outcome of the election than this. >> there are 47% of the people are going to vote for the people either way. there are 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government. who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them. who believe they're entitled to health care, to food, to housing, you name i. that's an entitlement and the government should give it to them. and they will vote for this president no matter what. and i
that's next. >>> and later, i will show mitt romney who is to win tomorrow night's debate. i actually showed him how to do it six years ago in an episode of "the west wing." mitt romney and "the west wing" are in tonight's rewrite. >> i've had a lot of republicans tell me, even supporters of yours, they look to mitt romney's tape, that 47% comment, how damaging was that? >> it was -- mitt acknowledged it was a very inarticulate way of a point we've been...
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are covered under my plan. >> that is a lie, as romney's campaign admitted later that same night. it does not cover preexisting conditions. if you've been uninsured in the last couple of years, you're not protected. 89 million americans would be left out in the cold. that's more than a third of the elderly population. but there's something else that romney said about health care at the debate that is also not true. that matters more and is getting much less attention. >> the best course for health care is to do what we did in my state. then let's focus on getting the cost down for people rather than raising it with a $2,500 additional premium. >> it sounds like he wants to make it possible for every state to follow massachusetts's example. if you read romney's policies and i have. that's not what he wants to do. ehe's going to make it impossible for any other state to follow the massachusetts model. what you need to know here is that romney paid for his health care plan in three ways. two of those ways were taking federal government money and one of them was a state tax. the first
are covered under my plan. >> that is a lie, as romney's campaign admitted later that same night. it does not cover preexisting conditions. if you've been uninsured in the last couple of years, you're not protected. 89 million americans would be left out in the cold. that's more than a third of the elderly population. but there's something else that romney said about health care at the debate that is also not true. that matters more and is getting much less attention. >> the best...
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that's why we saw that new slit version of the romney-bot on wednesday night. this romneybot, they worked on him in the factory for hours. >> oh, lord, cynthia. >> making sure he had the right smile, making sure he seemed warm and sincere. well, who was that guy? >> i think he was -- >> this is not a guy we've seen on the campaign trail for the last -- >> i can't take any of this seriously. >> -- for the last several months. >> i think first off the whole idea that this guy is an empty suit is laughable to say that, number one. he was the governor of a state and was successful. he was able to cobble together the coalition, something this president hasn't been able to do quite frankly to get his agenda done. >> why does he keep saying -- this one gets to me. i don't like the word lie. i think he's dealing an untruth here. he did it the other night after being corrected by his staff on one of the sunday shows. he said that his health care plan, such as it's going to be, will cover people who don't have coverage for pre-existing conditions and they try to buy a po
that's why we saw that new slit version of the romney-bot on wednesday night. this romneybot, they worked on him in the factory for hours. >> oh, lord, cynthia. >> making sure he had the right smile, making sure he seemed warm and sincere. well, who was that guy? >> i think he was -- >> this is not a guy we've seen on the campaign trail for the last -- >> i can't take any of this seriously. >> -- for the last several months. >> i think first off the...
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and many fellow democrats felt romney bent the truth in the debate but was never called out and i asked if it was the moderator that bungled that or the president. >> i think the moderator has that job. >> it's upo the president to defend himself? >> absolutely. i am not trying to say the president should not take responsibility for his awful performance, he should have. but i think the criticism to the moderator is also justified. >> go ahead, hanna. >> what the liberals are doing is post debate spinning. it's whining. there's no whining in politics. one person should have challenged what romney was saying and his name is barack obama, and he did not do it. i agree with lz. it was a bit of both. it was a lot of both. president obama was way off, and mitt romney was very much on his game. you know, i don't remember many debates where it's hard to think of a memorable gaffe or a memorable knockout blow, and yet there was a very visible mark that was an undebatable victor of the debate, and it was mitt romney. he did it because for 90 sustained minutes, it was like he was debating a limp
and many fellow democrats felt romney bent the truth in the debate but was never called out and i asked if it was the moderator that bungled that or the president. >> i think the moderator has that job. >> it's upo the president to defend himself? >> absolutely. i am not trying to say the president should not take responsibility for his awful performance, he should have. but i think the criticism to the moderator is also justified. >> go ahead, hanna. >> what the...
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wassaying it was mitt romney's night. it was all about domestic issues last night. they talked about the economy and health care. the term that has now been coined using obama care. president barack obama fired back when talking about taxes. irani said he would not raise taxes on the middle-class. president obama said how could he do that without increasing the deficit. today people are talking about how each canada did. some believe president obama may have been too relaxed. others believe iran may have gone the boost he needed. >>-- other believed mitt romney may have gotten the boost he needeed. >>d. >> some political analysts believe the boosted its may only be one or two percentage points. others are also asking questions about why president obama did not raise the issue of the 47% statement, the video we talked about four weeks about why he did not question their romney on that issue as well. this is just round one of the debate. they will meet again october 16 and 22nd. >> thank you very much. a little more analysi
wassaying it was mitt romney's night. it was all about domestic issues last night. they talked about the economy and health care. the term that has now been coined using obama care. president barack obama fired back when talking about taxes. irani said he would not raise taxes on the middle-class. president obama said how could he do that without increasing the deficit. today people are talking about how each canada did. some believe president obama may have been too relaxed. others believe...
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: just how did romney get ahead last night? by aggressively taking on the president, part of the romney strategy, going into the debate. moments like this one. as the two debated the debt, that bipartisan plan that got nowhere in washington. >> but in my view, the president should have grabbed it, if he wanted to make some adjustments to it, take it, go to congress, fight for it. >> that's what we've done. made some adjustments and we're putting it forward to congress right now. >> but you've been president four years. >> reporter: but on that stage, in front of a much broader audience than usual, romney doing something else last night. appearing more moderate than the red meat offered up on the campaign trail or in the primaries. on cutting taxes, even for the rich, the tone, different. during the primary -- >> i said today, we're going to cut taxes on everyone, across the country, by 20%. including the top 1%. >> reporter: last night? >> i will not reduce the share paid by high income individuals. i know that you and your run
: just how did romney get ahead last night? by aggressively taking on the president, part of the romney strategy, going into the debate. moments like this one. as the two debated the debt, that bipartisan plan that got nowhere in washington. >> but in my view, the president should have grabbed it, if he wanted to make some adjustments to it, take it, go to congress, fight for it. >> that's what we've done. made some adjustments and we're putting it forward to congress right now....
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the president tries to rally after mitt romney's big night. what insiders tell us today about why the president was off his game. >>> breaking news. those loose passenger seats force american airlines to ground 48 planes tonight, causing even more delays and cancelled flights. >>> health alert. a mysterious outbreak of meningitis, deaths, serious illness. and it's linked to a treatment for back pain which was somehow contaminated. >>> real money. can we put thousands of dollars in your pocket right now? doubling the value of that old car in your driveway. >>> good evening. we begin with that question we heard asked across the country today. what was going on with president obama at the big debate with governor mitt romney last night? we have learned that 67.2 million americans were watching last night and governor romney came out swinging. the president seemed to be dodging the fight. with only 33 days to go until your voice, your vote, why was the president off his game? has the whole race changed today? we'll start with abc's jake tapper, he
the president tries to rally after mitt romney's big night. what insiders tell us today about why the president was off his game. >>> breaking news. those loose passenger seats force american airlines to ground 48 planes tonight, causing even more delays and cancelled flights. >>> health alert. a mysterious outbreak of meningitis, deaths, serious illness. and it's linked to a treatment for back pain which was somehow contaminated. >>> real money. can we put thousands...
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that's what romney did last night. every time obama said you have a $5 trillion tax cut, he said no i don't. the truth is we don't know what it is. as he's running for president, i think it's information that we're frankly entitled to. >> let me play another clip. the president criticized romney for a lack of specifics in the tax plan and wall street reform and health care. that's how that went down. >> my experience as a governor is if i come in and lay down a piece of legislation and say, it's my way or the highway, i don't get a lot done. what i do is the same way that tip o'neal and ronald reagan worked together some years ago. when ronald reagan ran for office, he laid out the principles that he was going to foster. >> so it's about principles, not actual hard plans. in a million years did you ever think that a victory could come out of this debate base odd vagueness? i ask that because knowing in we knew all of the weapons both could quite honestly use and weapons the moderator would have available to press both
that's what romney did last night. every time obama said you have a $5 trillion tax cut, he said no i don't. the truth is we don't know what it is. as he's running for president, i think it's information that we're frankly entitled to. >> let me play another clip. the president criticized romney for a lack of specifics in the tax plan and wall street reform and health care. that's how that went down. >> my experience as a governor is if i come in and lay down a piece of legislation...
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the romney of last night or the romney of the past two months? >> this has to give him a lift, right? >> yeah, a lift, the confidence that he didn't have before, perhaps. we'll see. >> jim vandehei, thanks so much, jim. we'll talk to you later. >> take care. >>> coming up next, it only took them 162 games, but the oakland a's last night caught up and passed the texas rangers. >> that's unbelievable. moneyball. >> capturing the a.l. west title on the final day of the season. we'll have that and the rest of the playoff picture in sports. >> the red sox almost did that last night. >>> before we get to sports, let's check in with music city, usa, where it's 5:38 in the morning. jon meacham, are you still awake and with us? >> oh, hey. >> good. jon, where's lunch today? if i were you, i'd go to rotier's or loveless, but your call. >> i'm a longtime rotier's fan. the other is ledbetter's. >> don't forget, rotier's has american cheese and crackers as their lead appetizer. >> ritz. that's the difference. that's the difference. think of the markup on that
the romney of last night or the romney of the past two months? >> this has to give him a lift, right? >> yeah, a lift, the confidence that he didn't have before, perhaps. we'll see. >> jim vandehei, thanks so much, jim. we'll talk to you later. >> take care. >>> coming up next, it only took them 162 games, but the oakland a's last night caught up and passed the texas rangers. >> that's unbelievable. moneyball. >> capturing the a.l. west title on the...
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>>> from a very romney revival to a debate night keg party, here are today's "top lines." what a pity. >> earlier today the medical team received a noble prize for reviving the mitt romney campaign. >> don't be so polite, don't be could nice. >> clear eyes, pull heart, can't lose. >> elmo has been seen in a white suburban. he's driving for the border. >> i don't want to ruffle any feathers. >> big bird? what is that all about. >> this move to cut sesame street might not do much. i believe the quote co-would be that's bull [ bleep ]. >> they are freaking out and desperate. >> fox news is upset that empty headed punts are trying to brainwash and indoctrinate america. you could sue them. >> liar, liar, liar, pants on fire, fire. >> what was being presented wasn't leadership. >> we just watched what leadership looks like. >> that's salesmanship. >> i'm confident because i see you here. >> this is nice and then he uses his hand to tap, tap. okay, now i'm -- >> you have never seen a bull fight quite like this one. >> this did not end well. >> those are your words not mine. that
>>> from a very romney revival to a debate night keg party, here are today's "top lines." what a pity. >> earlier today the medical team received a noble prize for reviving the mitt romney campaign. >> don't be so polite, don't be could nice. >> clear eyes, pull heart, can't lose. >> elmo has been seen in a white suburban. he's driving for the border. >> i don't want to ruffle any feathers. >> big bird? what is that all about. >> this...
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the mitt romney wasn display last night is the one that his friends and family and a few journalists who have had access to him over the years have seen before. that guy can win this race. the question is, can jesus stain it beyond one night. >> in any number of areas what governor romney has done as he said laid, said last night he laid out the broad principles but now you have gotten specific about the good parts, the carrot if you will and very vague about the stick. >> obama is brilliant in a speech, a peach is different than when you are in an argument and when you are in an argument if you don't bring passion to your argument the other side is generally going to win and what you say almost matters as much as how you say it, and the scary thing about politics is, substance aside, you know, a lot of the journalist whose know the substance on these issues are debating with themselves who was more accurate and who was not. when you listen to the person in the street, the voter, the juror who i speak to, they say i understood romney, i didn't understand obama. i liked romney's style
the mitt romney wasn display last night is the one that his friends and family and a few journalists who have had access to him over the years have seen before. that guy can win this race. the question is, can jesus stain it beyond one night. >> in any number of areas what governor romney has done as he said laid, said last night he laid out the broad principles but now you have gotten specific about the good parts, the carrot if you will and very vague about the stick. >> obama is...
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romney did -- governor romney was terrific last night. he did all the things he has to do to get back in this race, and i am also mystified at the president's strategy. you know, chris, i'm a good sports fan. in fact, i even do sports tv and i write -- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is you lose the lead. and i can't for the life of me believe that that's what they did, but that's the only explanation. they told the president, don't be confrontational. they told the president, be above it all, act presidential. but the one thing that gets me when i was running for re-election as mayor and when i was running for re-election as governor and even d.a., i had a passion for what we'd accomplished. i had a passion to explain where we didn't ak plir something, why we didn't, what the road blocks were, and he could have done that without being aggres
romney did -- governor romney was terrific last night. he did all the things he has to do to get back in this race, and i am also mystified at the president's strategy. you know, chris, i'm a good sports fan. in fact, i even do sports tv and i write -- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is...
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brian who do you think won last night? >> i think romney won stylically. romm rom made the point he will not raise the taxes on the wealthy. that is false. he talked about lowering the rates for top income folks and corporate rate. one of the things i was saying earlier, i called my aunt. wait a minute, i knew romney was going to privatize medicare and they are leaving that out. if you are issue oriented when you hear romney say i am going to voucherize medicare you are concerned. >> it is not just about medicare, benjamin. he said he will not raise taxes. he will cut spending and cutting spending you take those dollars to decrease taxes. small businesses have been taxed enough. the reason why we have the tea party, we are taxed enough already . the bottom line, obama came up with great friends but 47 million people are on food stampings. >> you seem to disagree with a lot of pundits who said obama didn't do his best last night. romney won hands down. body language alone. if you looked at the debate. president obama looked down a lot. and looking at his no
brian who do you think won last night? >> i think romney won stylically. romm rom made the point he will not raise the taxes on the wealthy. that is false. he talked about lowering the rates for top income folks and corporate rate. one of the things i was saying earlier, i called my aunt. wait a minute, i knew romney was going to privatize medicare and they are leaving that out. if you are issue oriented when you hear romney say i am going to voucherize medicare you are concerned....
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romney demolished that last night. how is it going to appear to anybody who has seen romney demolish that. >> bill: i agree. romney has to also. >> he has to use his stuff wisely. >> bill: he has got to come up with a theme. romney doesn't have a theme yet. what he done last night was won the debate on his own personal command of the issues. now he has got to get a theme for the second and third debate. and the theme i would assume would be president's incompetent. he is a not doing it on the economy or overseas. last word, charld? >> unfortunately you are wrong. that's the tact that he has tried. the guy is a good guy but he failed. it didn't work. that's the clint eastwood line. his attack has to be what he did last night. this is trickle down government. the reason everything has gone wrong, the debt is high. the economy is struggling. unemployment is high is because is he a trickle down government guy. that's where he scored all his points. if he keeps it up with a barrage of that from here to election day, he wins
romney demolished that last night. how is it going to appear to anybody who has seen romney demolish that. >> bill: i agree. romney has to also. >> he has to use his stuff wisely. >> bill: he has got to come up with a theme. romney doesn't have a theme yet. what he done last night was won the debate on his own personal command of the issues. now he has got to get a theme for the second and third debate. and the theme i would assume would be president's incompetent. he is a not...